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Changes to skin colors etc in Pivot 2.1.0

Sandro Martini
Hi all,
for Pivot 2.1.0 we are doing some changes to colors, fonts, and other
graphics elements, color normalization, rationalization of color
usage, etc ...

This is the related issue:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PIVOT-689
I just put in attach (there) some screenshots, default and dark, both
normal and with the new flag flat (no gradients, no shadows) as a
sample.

Note that some parts of that issue (only small fixes) have also been
done for 2.0.5 , but no color changes or new features here.


Today I should commit a change in default configuration for font size,
from 11 to 12; at least in Windows 7 all looks good (but still hadn't
tried in other platforms). With higher screen resolutions this should
be a small but good change.

Then, I'd make some cleanup, like moving some (now a little outdated)
skin configuration files (TerraTheme_*.json) to our demos subproject,
unless someone is really using them, and in that case tell me so we
can test them better to make them look good :-) .


What do you think ?

Bye,
Sandro
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RE: Changes to skin colors etc in Pivot 2.1.0

Roger Whitcomb-2
It has come up with our application that the default Pivot theme font (which is "Verdana 11") does not support (on Windows at least) a lot of the Unicode character set, particularly: Chinese, Korean, and Japanese (and probably others as well).  This doesn't work well for us since we are now penetrating the Japanese and Korean markets.

The discussion in the Java "Font" class says this:
Typically, each logical font name maps to several physical fonts in order to cover a large range of characters.

So, after some experimentation on Windows XP, 7, OSX (Mavericks) and Linux (Redhat), we have changed the default theme font for our application to "DIALOG 12".  This font is a little narrower than Verdana, but it is nice looking, and (better yet) displays Korean characters just fine (per the notes for the Java "Font" class).

So, I would propose for at least 2.1 (and maybe 2.0.5 as well), changing the default in our TerraTheme to be "DIALOG 12" or maybe "SANS_SERIF 12" instead of Verdana.

The other reason for making this change would be to make applications look more alike across all platforms.  "Verdana" is not typically available on OSX or Linux, and thus something else would be substituted anyway for the default theme font.

Comments?  Problems with this?  Anyone think this should NOT go into 2.0.5 (upcoming)??

I have opened issue https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PIVOT-958 to track this issue.

Thanks,
~Roger

-----Original Message-----
From: Sandro Martini [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2014 12:56 AM
To: Users - Apache Pivot
Subject: Changes to skin colors etc in Pivot 2.1.0

Hi all,
for Pivot 2.1.0 we are doing some changes to colors, fonts, and other graphics elements, color normalization, rationalization of color usage, etc ...

This is the related issue:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PIVOT-689
I just put in attach (there) some screenshots, default and dark, both normal and with the new flag flat (no gradients, no shadows) as a sample.

Note that some parts of that issue (only small fixes) have also been done for 2.0.5 , but no color changes or new features here.


Today I should commit a change in default configuration for font size, from 11 to 12; at least in Windows 7 all looks good (but still hadn't tried in other platforms). With higher screen resolutions this should be a small but good change.

Then, I'd make some cleanup, like moving some (now a little outdated) skin configuration files (TerraTheme_*.json) to our demos subproject, unless someone is really using them, and in that case tell me so we can test them better to make them look good :-) .


What do you think ?

Bye,
Sandro
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Re: Changes to skin colors etc in Pivot 2.1.0

Sandro Martini
Ciao Roger,
for me this change is Ok, even if the font look a little different
than before (but it looks good the same), because better i18n and good
looking multiplatform is more important.

> Comments?  Problems with this?  Anyone think this should NOT go into 2.0.5 (upcoming)??
I think it's safe to make this change even in 2.0.5 (so users could
start with it a transition for 2.1.0), unless someone has strong
objections.

Bye